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    If mri show soft tissue and ct myelogram show bony structures, why wouldn't you do both? I may have some spinal nervers that are pinched by my bone spurs. My surgeon wants to order another ct myelogram rather than an mri. I am so confused! Somebody please reply? Thank you, cher
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheryl stewart View Post
    If mri show soft tissue and ct myelogram show bony structures, why wouldn't you do both? I may have some spinal nervers that are pinched by my bone spurs. My surgeon wants to order another ct myelogram rather than an mri. I am so confused! Somebody please reply? Thank you, cher
    This sites might help explain his reasoning:
    Myelography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Myelogram
    Diagnosis
    L2/L3 bilateral facet joint arthropathy - sclerotic (B-FJA-S)
    L3/L4 M6-L ADR; severe B-FJA-S; mod foraminal stenosis (R)
    L4/L5 M6-L ADR; severe B-FJA-S; posterior decompression
    L5/S1 bilateral hemisacralized; B-FJA-S

    Procedures or Diagnostics
    3/09 L3.L5 Laminectomy; L4/L5 w Disectomy
    7/09 FJI, Radiofrequency Thermocoagulation (4 L)
    4/10 Discogram

    6/10 L3.L5 M6-L ADR
    8/11 L4/L5 Epidural Steriod Inj (L)
    10/11 CT Myleogram
    12/11 Medial Branch Blocks (8)

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    okay, so i read this...and if the ct is done after the myelography, why don't they just do a standard ct and see if that gives them what they need to know and if not then do the spinal tap? why put that risk on the patient without first doing the minimal thing first? in any case, i will most likely have to have another ct myelogram done. not looking forward to it.
    42 year old female
    Hyperflexion injury to neck young 20's
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    7/2007 PEEK implant w/titanium plate and screws at the C4-C5 & C5-C6
    4 EMGS/NCS showing radiculopathy at all levels mentioned
    7/2008 nerve root injections 2 times
    9/2008 revision C4/5 & C5/6 due to failure of fusion replace PEEK implant w/donor bone graft new titanium plate and screws
    10/2009 stand alone Peek cage C3/4
    Arthritis of c-spine c6/7/t1
    loss of muscle tone in forearms and hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheryl stewart View Post
    okay, so i read this...and if the ct is done after the myelography, why don't they just do a standard ct and see if that gives them what they need to know and if not then do the spinal tap? why put that risk on the patient without first doing the minimal thing first? in any case, i will most likely have to have another ct myelogram done. not looking forward to it.
    Hi Cher,

    I had a myelogram and it was a pretty seamless procedure. The reasoning behind doing the spinal tap and films is that the myelography is able to provide much more information regarding the spinal canal. Patients are actually exposed to significant doses of radiation with each CT scan they undergo, as compared to a plain x-ray. A patient's increasing exposure to radiation puts them at an increased lifetime risk of certain cancers.

    Patients are already receiving too many imaging studies based on the "defensive medicine" that the United States currently requires.

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    but dont they usually do a ct scan after the myelogram? i had a docotr in california recommend both a ct myelogram and an mri. he said they need to look at the arthritis and my nerves/spinal cord. i am trying to take some control, know what i mean?
    42 year old female
    Hyperflexion injury to neck young 20's
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    7/2007 PEEK implant w/titanium plate and screws at the C4-C5 & C5-C6
    4 EMGS/NCS showing radiculopathy at all levels mentioned
    7/2008 nerve root injections 2 times
    9/2008 revision C4/5 & C5/6 due to failure of fusion replace PEEK implant w/donor bone graft new titanium plate and screws
    10/2009 stand alone Peek cage C3/4
    Arthritis of c-spine c6/7/t1
    loss of muscle tone in forearms and hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheryl stewart View Post
    but dont they usually do a ct scan after the myelogram? i had a docotr in california recommend both a ct myelogram and an mri. he said they need to look at the arthritis and my nerves/spinal cord. i am trying to take some control, know what i mean?
    Yes, a CT is done with a CT/Myelogram --> good at visualizing bony structures.
    MRI --> good at visualizing soft tissues.

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    Hi Justin,
    I saw that my EMG? was moved. It makes better since for it to be here.
    I am having the CT myelogram and EMG done next Tuesday.
    I guess I'll survive.
    Thanks,
    Cheryl
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    2 auto accidents
    Three neck surgeries:
    7/2007 PEEK implant w/titanium plate and screws at the C4-C5 & C5-C6
    4 EMGS/NCS showing radiculopathy at all levels mentioned
    7/2008 nerve root injections 2 times
    9/2008 revision C4/5 & C5/6 due to failure of fusion replace PEEK implant w/donor bone graft new titanium plate and screws
    10/2009 stand alone Peek cage C3/4
    Arthritis of c-spine c6/7/t1
    loss of muscle tone in forearms and hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheryl stewart View Post
    Hi Justin,
    I saw that my EMG? was moved. It makes better since for it to be here.
    I am having the CT myelogram and EMG done next Tuesday.
    I guess I'll survive.
    Thanks,
    Cheryl
    HI Cheryl,
    I just came back from picking up my film from the ct and the myelogram. The doctor could not read the Disc so I went back to the hospital to pick it up. I asked for and received anesthesia during the procedure. I really don't know what good it did. As soon as the anesthesia wore off I was in a lot of pain. They could not give me much since I had to have the ct scan immediately following. They just wheeled me by the scan. I never had to leave the bed. What you can do that I didn't do is to have some pain meds ready for after the procedure. My doctor does not believe in it. He never steps out of the box. It is either black or white That is what I would do if i had to do it over. Good luck, Carmen :thumpup:
    • Scoliosis and multilevel severe degeneration of the intervertebral disks
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    Default Re: Mri or ct myelogram? This is what my myelogram showed.

    Hi Cheryl,
    I guess the test does show many important factors that the doctor should be aware of.

    This is what the myelogram showed: Tested April 7, 2010

    . Multilevel degenerative change
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    Complete obliteration of the L5 to S1 disk

    L4 and L5 there is a pronounced rotatory subluxation component
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    Rotoscoliosis of the lumber spine with marked multilevel
    degenerate change

    Central canal is most compromised at L2 to L3 due to disk herniation
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    Multiple levels of lateralizing degenerative change resulting in neural foraminal narrowing.

    I hope yours comes out better. Carmen

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    • Scoliosis and multilevel severe degeneration of the intervertebral disks
    • Marked multilevel facet arthrosis
    • Fusion of the L5 and S1 vertebrae
    • Grade 1 spondylolisthesis at L4-L5 and L5 and S1
    • Slight antherolisthesis at L3-4
    • Multilevel asymmetrical neuroforaminal narrowing

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