Wishing you luck Rob!
This is a discussion on Another Regenexx guinea pig at L3/4 within the Emerging Spine Surgery Technologies forums, part of the Spine Surgery Support category; With everything I have had with my spine (ADR L4/5 and L5/S1, posterior decompression of L4/5 and L5/S1 after ADR, ...
With everything I have had with my spine (ADR L4/5 and L5/S1, posterior decompression of L4/5 and L5/S1 after ADR, piriformis muslce removal, SI joint / ligament PRP injections), you would think I would learn. But no I overdid things in my yard (had an ax out cutting bushes). I ended up with some tingling in my L3/4 area and some weakness in front of thigh (L4 nerve?). I have an MRI from 2008 that shows L3/4 as some bulging with some facet hypertrophy. No big dela I had hoped. This has been going on for 6 weeks. I have decied to get a new MRI, start PT, and schedule a Regenexx stem cell disc procedure at L3/4. I will keep my results posted for others. By the way I have had good success with the Regenexx procedure for both my knees and my shoulder.
Rob Wilson
2/06 L4/5, L5/S1 ADR Stenum Hospital - Iliac vein cut w/ occlusion of iliac vein and hematoma
12/06 thru 8/07 Laser Spine Institute - 6 surgeries on L3/4 both sides, L4/5 both sides, L5/S1 both sides
4/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 right
8/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 left
12/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L4/5 right and left
9/09 Piriformis surgery to remove piriformis muscle causing sciatica
Wishing you luck Rob!
31 years old-
1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!
Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 5.5 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011, completely pain free still!
Hi Rob
Are you kidding, Put the ax away,
Rob you have been through the ringer and back, How is the rest of your conditions?
Please keep us posted.
As always all the best
Gil![]()
L5-S1 lam 1994
L2 to L5 DDD
L3 -L4 hern Dec 2007.
L4-L5 Annular fissure with mild central stenosis and moderate facet hypertrophy.
L5-S1 bilaterial neural foraminal narrowing with inferior effacement.
L2-L3 Right-sided neural foraminal narrowing
L3-L4 related to posterolateral hypertrophic spurs and facet hypertrophy.
C3-C4 limited DDD
15 injections Depo. P.T. 18 months 9 dose packs,
Nerve Block Injections.4 ESI S1
L5-S1 Foraminotomy 09
L4-L5 Microdiscectomy 09 ReHerniation 4-2010
Surgery 6-29-11 L4-L5-S1 Decompression Fusion L5-S1 and Coflex F implants
Thanks for asking. I have made great strides thanks to dry needling, prolotherapy, PRP and stem cell injections. These injections have helped my foot, wrist, knees, elbows, SI, low back. Unfortunately they are all out of pocket.
Rob Wilson
2/06 L4/5, L5/S1 ADR Stenum Hospital - Iliac vein cut w/ occlusion of iliac vein and hematoma
12/06 thru 8/07 Laser Spine Institute - 6 surgeries on L3/4 both sides, L4/5 both sides, L5/S1 both sides
4/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 right
8/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 left
12/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L4/5 right and left
9/09 Piriformis surgery to remove piriformis muscle causing sciatica
Rob,
Your "signature" doesn't indicate a stem cell injection. Did you get the back stem cell injection at Bonati? Did they remove stem cells from the hip and regrow invitro (like Regenxx) and inject directly into the back disc? Please tell us a little about the back stem cell injections.
Thanks.
Diagnosis:
Degenerative disc disease throughout spine
Generalized disc bulging with mild narrowing of thecal sac in L2-L3, L3-L4, L4-L5, L5-S1.
Moderate spinal stenosis L4-L5
Foraminal narrowing
Recent compression Fx at T10,T11.
Treatment:
Spinal decompression 2007
Cortisone injection in lower back in 2010
Relieved of pain for now
Hope for ADR
I have not had any stem injections yet. Will start this process on 8/16. I had posterior decompressions at Bonati.
Rob Wilson
2/06 L4/5, L5/S1 ADR Stenum Hospital - Iliac vein cut w/ occlusion of iliac vein and hematoma
12/06 thru 8/07 Laser Spine Institute - 6 surgeries on L3/4 both sides, L4/5 both sides, L5/S1 both sides
4/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 right
8/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 left
12/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L4/5 right and left
9/09 Piriformis surgery to remove piriformis muscle causing sciatica
Sorry - I will be getting stem cell injections at Centeno Shultz Clinic.
www.regenexx.com/
Rob Wilson
2/06 L4/5, L5/S1 ADR Stenum Hospital - Iliac vein cut w/ occlusion of iliac vein and hematoma
12/06 thru 8/07 Laser Spine Institute - 6 surgeries on L3/4 both sides, L4/5 both sides, L5/S1 both sides
4/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 right
8/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 left
12/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L4/5 right and left
9/09 Piriformis surgery to remove piriformis muscle causing sciatica
Awesome, Rob! Let us know how things go with Dr. Centeno.![]()
Justin Averna
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- 1994: Football Injury, Severe Hyperextension
- 1997: Snow Skiing Injury
- 3/7/1997, 17 years old: Laminotomy L4/L5
- 1999 & 2003: Motor Vehicle Accidents (not at fault both times) --> Grade V Annular Tears L4/L5 & L5/L6
- 11/15/2003, 23 years old: 2-Level ProDisc® L4/L5 & L5/L6*, *lumbosacral transitional vertebra --> Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
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I got my MRI results back and they don't show any changes to the L3/4 disc from 12/08. Therefore my pain is most likely due to SI joint, SI ligaments and iliolumbar ligament strains. I have gotten some improvement with physical therapy (extension/flexion machine and decompression machine). I am scared to do any RF since it is more of a band aid. I want the tissue to heal not to just kill it. Any thoughts? I will probably try some prolotherapy and PRP as well.
Rob Wilson
2/06 L4/5, L5/S1 ADR Stenum Hospital - Iliac vein cut w/ occlusion of iliac vein and hematoma
12/06 thru 8/07 Laser Spine Institute - 6 surgeries on L3/4 both sides, L4/5 both sides, L5/S1 both sides
4/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 right
8/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 left
12/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L4/5 right and left
9/09 Piriformis surgery to remove piriformis muscle causing sciatica
When I had frozen shoulder (left side) my doctor did the stem cell injection (I was in a trial so it was free) in my shoulder. I don't know if it was because my shoulder was encapsulated or because we did it with no anesthetic, but it hurt like I can't even tell you! It did bring me some relief for P.T. though. I believe they do it with anesthetic now, at least with frozen shoulders.
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