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    The battle began about 6 weeks after surgery with Aetna denying the initial claim due to "no evidence of conservative treatment".

    I started work on gathering doctor's notes for every office visit, MRI and surgical procedures. I copied studies on ADR success rates v.s. fusion and submitted the appeal (about 1/2" thick).

    Some success came after that in the form of the surgical bill and device cost. Back to the appeal process...

    Second appeal was mishandled, misplaced, misfiled for a few months. After daily calls, it turned up. A supervisor promised it would be looked at immediately. Within a few weeks (the day after I started calling again) an investigator called for information. She called a few days later with more questions from the surgical consultant reviewing the case. A week later she called and told em that the appeal was approved for the most part. She didn't detail what wasn't reversed.

    Aetna's notice of approval denied the 5 days in the hospital after surgery. I filed another appeal with a letter of necessity from the surgeon. I failed to include all of the documentation of the previous appeal. All they looked at was the letter. They denied it. No more appeals.

    I began the process of appealing with my benefits department, sending them the disputed portion of the bills. Denied. Once again, I should have submitted the 1/2" original appeal. I back tracked and sent it in. Unfortunately it didn't arrive before the expiration date.

    Ignoring this denial, I contacted someone in HR that reached out to the benefits group management. After a few weeks, they agreed to look at it again.

    Finally, 22 months after the original claim was filed, the benefits rep called and said, and this is a quote, "Our medical board now understands your claim. They didn't realize the procedure was that invasive".

    The final check came this week.

    What a long, strange trip this has been.
    04/06 L5/S1 Rupture
    05/06 MRI shows DDD @ L2-S1
    06/06 Diskectomy/ Laminotomy L5/S1
    04/07 Recurrent Disc L5/S1
    4 Ortho and 1 Neuro Surgeon, 5 MRIs, 1 EGM, 1 Myleogram & 11 EDIs later:
    03/27/09 L4/5 & L5/S1 Maverick discs at Stenum (www.dr-ritter-lang.com)
    11/9/11 C6/7 Herniation with Nerve Impingement. Another journey begins.

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    Congrats for hanging in there in your fight for your rights from the insurance company.
    Diagnosis:
    Degenerative disc disease throughout spine
    Generalized disc bulging with mild narrowing of thecal sac in L2-L3, L3-L4, L4-L5, L5-S1.
    Moderate spinal stenosis L4-L5
    Foraminal narrowing
    Recent compression Fx at T10,T11.
    Treatment:
    Spinal decompression 2007
    Cortisone injection in lower back in 2010
    Relieved of pain for now
    Hope for ADR

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    Thanks KRM. I was okay with me footing the bill until I realized the people I was dealing with had just gotten laid off from an aluminum siding telemarketing company. Something about a person that couldn't spell ADR denying the claim irked me.
    04/06 L5/S1 Rupture
    05/06 MRI shows DDD @ L2-S1
    06/06 Diskectomy/ Laminotomy L5/S1
    04/07 Recurrent Disc L5/S1
    4 Ortho and 1 Neuro Surgeon, 5 MRIs, 1 EGM, 1 Myleogram & 11 EDIs later:
    03/27/09 L4/5 & L5/S1 Maverick discs at Stenum (www.dr-ritter-lang.com)
    11/9/11 C6/7 Herniation with Nerve Impingement. Another journey begins.

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    Bob, congrats! You fought the good fight.

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    Default Re: Aetna finally sent the last installment

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Bob, congrats! You fought the good fight.
    Thanks Justin. After all is said and done though, it wasn't the good fight. It's the unfortunate fight. The entire process reminds me of the Grisham novel, "The Rainmaker". It's a good thing we have politicians on our side trying to give everyone this same type of coverage and treatment.........right?

    Boy, this post is a lot shorter after removing all of the words I usually use to describe insurance companies.
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    04/06 L5/S1 Rupture
    05/06 MRI shows DDD @ L2-S1
    06/06 Diskectomy/ Laminotomy L5/S1
    04/07 Recurrent Disc L5/S1
    4 Ortho and 1 Neuro Surgeon, 5 MRIs, 1 EGM, 1 Myleogram & 11 EDIs later:
    03/27/09 L4/5 & L5/S1 Maverick discs at Stenum (www.dr-ritter-lang.com)
    11/9/11 C6/7 Herniation with Nerve Impingement. Another journey begins.

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    Default Re: Aetna finally sent the last installment

    Please feel free to use those words!

    Grateful for you Bob. Never should have gotten to the point it did though.

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    All in all, at the end of the day, you won your final appeal and that is great news! Thanks for including us in your final victory too Bob! CL
    • January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
    • June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
    • April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
    • April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
    • July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
    • July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
    • August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
    • March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
    • April 27, 2010 2nd right hip arthroscopy to remove adhesions and release psoas muscle
    • September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
    • December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
    • December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
    • February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
    Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
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    Congrats Bob!

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    Hey Bob

    That is great news lets hope this becomes more common for us spine patients

    Gil
    L5-S1 lam 1994
    L2 to L5 DDD
    L3 -L4 hern Dec 2007.
    L4-L5 Annular fissure with mild central stenosis and moderate facet hypertrophy.
    L5-S1 bilaterial neural foraminal narrowing with inferior effacement.
    L2-L3 Right-sided neural foraminal narrowing
    L3-L4 related to posterolateral hypertrophic spurs and facet hypertrophy.
    C3-C4 limited DDD
    15 injections Depo. P.T. 18 months 9 dose packs,
    Nerve Block Injections.4 ESI S1
    L5-S1 Foraminotomy 09
    L4-L5 Microdiscectomy 09 ReHerniation 4-2010
    Surgery 6-29-11 L4-L5-S1 Decompression Fusion L5-S1 and Coflex F implants


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    Default Re: Aetna finally sent the last installment

    Bob,

    Congratulations! Way to hang in there for two years.

    Jeff
    C4/5 fusion, January 2000
    C5/6 fusion, February 2002
    C3/4 & C6/7 - M6 ADR, Nov 2009, Barcelona
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