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    Hello, everyone. I think I found a good site here.

    IMO I'm young in terms of back problems (26)... I found out I have had degenerative disc disease and have been experiencing excruciating pain for the last 5 years. This site seems to be full of good info, so I look forward to the discussions here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeMan View Post
    ...but it hurts my back!

    Hello, everyone. I think I found a good site here.

    IMO I'm young in terms of back problems (26)... I found out I have had degenerative disc disease and have been experiencing excruciating pain for the last 5 years. This site seems to be full of good info, so I look forward to the discussions here.
    Hey TreeMan,

    Welcome to the Spine Patient Society.

    It was good talking via private message. Being young and having spine problems is not fun. We are here to support you, as many Spine Patients here at SPS have been in your shoes.

    I wish you the very best.

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    I want to extend a warm welcome to you as well Treeman. Glad you found us and I hope we can help you. I love trees too, but I don't plant them myself! Cindylou
    • January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
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    • March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
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    Reply to Justin and Treeman,
    Being old(er) and having back problems is not fun either - maybe worse since doctors always use the term "at your age" as an excuse to do nothing about the problem.
    However, I've found the younger doctors are more understanding than the older ones.
    Diagnosis:
    Degenerative disc disease throughout spine
    Generalized disc bulging with mild narrowing of thecal sac in L2-L3, L3-L4, L4-L5, L5-S1.
    Moderate spinal stenosis L4-L5
    Foraminal narrowing
    Recent compression Fx at T10,T11.
    Treatment:
    Spinal decompression 2007
    Cortisone injection in lower back in 2010
    Relieved of pain for now
    Hope for ADR

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    Hi Treeman

    sorry you have to be here But so glad you are joining our family.
    How many levels od DDD do you have?

    What options have you been offered?

    I am much older and it no fun at any age the last Doctor was young and wanted to fuse four lavels and my SI joint witch is perfect.

    All The Best

    Gil
    L5-S1 lam 1994
    L2 to L5 DDD
    L3 -L4 hern Dec 2007.
    L4-L5 Annular fissure with mild central stenosis and moderate facet hypertrophy.
    L5-S1 bilaterial neural foraminal narrowing with inferior effacement.
    L2-L3 Right-sided neural foraminal narrowing
    L3-L4 related to posterolateral hypertrophic spurs and facet hypertrophy.
    C3-C4 limited DDD
    15 injections Depo. P.T. 18 months 9 dose packs,
    Nerve Block Injections.4 ESI S1
    L5-S1 Foraminotomy 09
    L4-L5 Microdiscectomy 09 ReHerniation 4-2010
    Surgery 6-29-11 L4-L5-S1 Decompression Fusion L5-S1 and Coflex F implants


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilbert P View Post
    Hi Treeman

    sorry you have to be here But so glad you are joining our family.
    How many levels od DDD do you have?

    What options have you been offered?

    I am much older and it no fun at any age the last Doctor was young and wanted to fuse four lavels and my SI joint witch is perfect.

    All The Best

    Gil

    Gil,

    To be honest I'm pretty ignorant on it. I go to the doctor and all I hear is "Blah, blah, blah...sorry, I know it must hurt, but there's really nothing we can do for it now" My doctor told me that he could "make them rigid", but the problems will most likely move up my spine. He also said insurance wouldn't cover the cost, and that it wasn't going to be cheap.

    I have had a few MRIs in the past, and I know the 3 bottom discs are pretty much worn out and gone.

    So, what would that be?

    My last steroid injection was at L5-51 (?)...that's what it said on my paper here at least. I've done a few injections in the past and they last me no more than 4-6 weeks.

    Sorry, for the ignorance I'm a newbie.

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    sounds like you have problems at L3/L4, L4/L5 & L5/S1. no apologies needed, all this spine stuff is very complicated.

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    Welcome to the forum. I also started with spine problems at a young age (25). I was also told there was 'nothing that could be done for me' and that I needed chronic pain management. My best advice is don't give up, see more doctors, send your records out to doctors nation and worldwide. Get opinions and eventually you will find an answer. I lucked out on my diagnosis, in my search for a pain management doctor who treated 'end of the road patients', as I was told I was, I found one at Texas Back Institute. On my first visit he looked at my MRI and said you have degenerative disc disease (DDD) and are a perfect candidate for disc replacement. That's when I began my internet search and found the forums and read all I could to become educated. It was overwhelming at first, knowing nothing and feeling like I was always asking stupid questions (in all honesty there is no such thing as a stupid question when it comes to your spine and surgery, so ask away.) Up until that point I had just done the treatments the doctors offered and believed everything they said... hence why it took 2.5 years for a diagnosis.

    Once I decided to go forward with the surgery, I then found out that my insurance wouldn't pay. I appealed and lost and at that point I had no fight left in me. I went into a clinical trial and received the Active L 2 years ago and am 100% pain free. And I was able to have a baby after surgery and remained pain free and now have a sweet 6 week old little boy. So, I say all that to say, don't give up and become as educated as you can on your condition and treatment options.

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    31 years old- 1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 6 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011 , completely pain free still!

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    Welcome! We all have to start somewhere, and no question is stupid.

    Are you a professional tree planter...one of those who goes out and plants a million seedlings in the middle of nowhere? I used to live in a logging/pulp mill based city and that was the summer job for hundreds of young people. Thankfully I hated bugs and couldn't face that backbreaking work

    It took me almost five years to get surgery after first going to a doctor who told me that he doesn't operate 'just for pain'. This from a guy who probably never had a hangnail in his life.....

    Most surgeons here (Canada) take the same attitude, so I had to go to Brazil for my surgery, and am glad I did it in the end, instead of finding someone here. He is world class and did an excellent job on my messed up back. I did have to have fusion at L4/5/S1 because I was allergic to the metals in any Artificial Discs (ADRs) available at the present time, but had an ADR put in at my C5/6 in my neck during the same surgery. So far, so good! Old age will probably do me in and I may be looking at more surgery in ten or twenty years, but I'll take what I can get in life for now

    Lots of experienced people happy to help here...fire away!
    Severe compression of spinal cord, flaval ligament, etc. at C4/5 & 5/6.
    Herniation and compression, at L3/4 to L5/S1 plus spondylosis at the latter level. Severe allergy to most metals.
    Three level surgery in Brazil with Dr. Luiz Pimenta on March 17/2010 using non-metal appliances. L5/S1-PEEK cage, ALIF; L4/5-PEEK cage, XLIF; C5/6-NuVasive NeoDisc. Three separate approaches, two minimally invasive. Currently minor residual back pain, from SI ligament and still overdoing things . Therapy and chiropractic treatments helping immensely. Gone from being almost bedridden to near normal activities including gardening. Life is gooooood!

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