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Finally tapered off my Vicodin

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    Default Finally tapered off my Vicodin

    I guess just in time too! (see Justin's post about FDA ruling) Well, I have gone two days now without any Vicodin, and so far so good. No withdrawal issues. I tapered pretty slow until I took the last one. I am taking anti-inflammatories still, Aleve. Which I still desperately need. When I had all that lab work done up recently for anti-coagulation doc, it did show (can't recall medical term) that I had alot of inflammation in my system, which was no surprise to me. I am still in a fair amount of pain which I would describe as a very tight back. I don't like to stand for long periods as it hurts too much. I pray to God this gets better. I still haven't started my PT yet with so much going on getting the house on the market, but I hope to very soon. Hopefully, that will help reduce the stiffness.
    • January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
    • June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
    • April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
    • April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
    • July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
    • July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
    • August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
    • March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
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    • September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
    • December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
    • December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
    • February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
    Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
    July 18, 2011

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    Default Good Job

    CL,

    Glad you were able to get of the Vicoden. It is going to be interesting on how they plan to do this. I guess putting a smaller amount of APAP into the drugs would help, like Norco, which has 350mg versus the 500mg Vicoden has. Anyway, glad you were able to reduce that well. Good job.
    Dave

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    C4/5 deterioration progressing quickly
    MRI on lumbar shows disc herniation at L5/S1, stenosis at L3/4, L4/5, spondylosis and DDD at L2 through S1 in July, 2009
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    CL, this is great news! Tapering off of opioids can be a very difficult and painful process.

    The FDA doesn't have to follow through on recommendations from advisory committees. This case will be interesting because of the close vote. I think this is good in that it is educating the general public that even though a drug is available over-the-counter, it doesn't mean that it is inherently safe. Acetaminophen, in very high doses and for prolonged durations, can have serious adverse effects.

    This time around for my pain management, I specially requested opioids that did not contain acetaminophen because I personally don't like the risk. This is not to say that acetaminophen is not a safe drug--it is when it is used properly and when patients are aware of the dosing.

    Good luck with the stiffness!

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    Thank-you Justin and Dave. It does feel good to be off all pain meds, I just hope it's for good. My back was so stiff yesterday that it will behoove me to start PT sooner rather than later. Will keep you posted.
    • January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
    • June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
    • April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
    • April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
    • July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
    • July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
    • August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
    • March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
    • April 27, 2010 2nd right hip arthroscopy to remove adhesions and release psoas muscle
    • September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
    • December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
    • December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
    • February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
    Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
    July 18, 2011

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    Congrats!!!

    I just hope i can do the same with the fentynal patch. I'm planning on tapering down before my surgery, so hopefully my pain will be controllable after surgery. One of the doctors I got a second opinion from has a concern that we won't be able to control the pain after surgery because I'm using this.

    You are a insperation for me!!!
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    Discsectemy June L4/L5 2004
    Discssectemy L4/L5 January 2007
    MRI May 5th - Herniated disc on nerve root
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    July 23rd - Having two level MAST TLIF on L4/L5 and L5/S1
    Tapering off Fentynal before surgery

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    That is awesome CL!

    I had the same thing with the high inflammation levels in my body. I believe the indicator is for 'heart' disease/inflammation indicator; but when it is way high (like mine was), it usually indicates inflammation elsewhere in the body.
    31 years old- 1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 6 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011 , completely pain free still!

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    Quote Originally Posted by symara View Post
    Congrats!!!

    I just hope i can do the same with the fentynal patch. I'm planning on tapering down before my surgery, so hopefully my pain will be controllable after surgery. One of the doctors I got a second opinion from has a concern that we won't be able to control the pain after surgery because I'm using this.

    You are a insperation for me!!!
    In regard to the bolded text above: I was on Fentanyl before my surgery and I am currently on it now. I will start tapering in the near future. Your pain will be controllable.

    I'm probably going to use Suboxone to taper and help suppress the opioid withdrawal.

    Good luck.
    -Justin

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    • 1994: Football Injury, Severe Hyperextension
    • 1997: Snow Skiing Injury
    • 3/7/1997: Laminotomy L4/L5
    • 1999 & 2003: Motor Vehicle Accidents (not at fault both times) --> Grade V Annular Tears L4/L5 & L5/L6
    • 11/15/2003: 2-Level ProDiscฎ L4/L5 & L5/L6*, *lumbosacral transitional vertebra --> Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
    • 4/2008: 4.5 years pain-free before "new" leg pain
    • 5/14/2009: Dynamic Stabilization System L4/L5, Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
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    CindyLou,

    Congratulations!!!

    It is finally your turn to have relief. You've had quite a few obstacles along your "journey." I hope things continue to improve from this point forward!

    -Dave
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    Stalif Fusion L5-S1, 3/07
    Intrepid Fusion L4-L5, 7/08
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    CT Scan, MRI w/ contrast (no new info) 5/09
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    - Stand/sit for 15 mins., pinching pain begins
    - Pain at center, core L4-L5
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    Congratulations on tapering off the vicodin, I am right behind you in tapering off my pain meds too. So far, so good.

    I hope some added PT will help loosen up your back, and help you feel better.
    Cathy

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    Thank-you Dave, Cathy, Kathy, Symara and Justin: I too hope that the p.t. will loosen up my back. As soon as I return from vacation I am going to call and get on the schedule. Meanwhile, I have been stretching every day here at the cabin and that is giving me some, not alot, but some relief. It does feel good to be off all pain meds. I have been on them for so long. Time to slowly whip this old bod back into shape. I have a solid 10-15 pounds I need to lose from all the inactivity. Hope I can make a stab at it.
    • January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
    • June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
    • April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
    • April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
    • July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
    • July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
    • August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
    • March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
    • April 27, 2010 2nd right hip arthroscopy to remove adhesions and release psoas muscle
    • September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
    • December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
    • December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
    • February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
    Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
    July 18, 2011

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