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(A) Is this more commonly know as snake oil? (B) Or does it work. (C) opinions

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    Low back pain became somewhat dehabilitating in 2005
    Have had 11 steroid injections, IDET, Trial for nerve stimulator, PT, chiropractic trial, practically every med known to mankind. Discogram indicated three diseased levels with L5-S1 being the most likely pain generator. Post minimally invasive PLIF with internal fixation (titanium) on 12-28-09 of L5-S1. Doing better than expected. Last opioid 7/9/10. Five months pain free, then my neck turned against me. MRI on 12/1/10-- disease at C2 to C7. Only surgical alternative is to fuse entire C-spine. Diagnosed now with Aggressive Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis with cord & brainstem active lesions

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    My honest opinion: you're better off saving your $80.

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    I had forgotten about this post. It reminds me of a product called DMSO which is used as a solvent for machinery parts. Back in the late 80's, before a former Vice President reported to have invented the internet, the primary source for this product was flee markets. Many of the elderly were buying it like hotcakes. They said it really helped with any type of arthritic pain.

    The problem was the purity and delivery system. It is readily absorbed through the skin and also drags any other stuff/contaminates on your skin with it. I was and have been afraid of putting anything in my body that desolves grease sludge.

    Wiki is not a great sourch for medical info but considering the product gives a good description. Dimethyl sulfoxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Low back pain became somewhat dehabilitating in 2005
    Have had 11 steroid injections, IDET, Trial for nerve stimulator, PT, chiropractic trial, practically every med known to mankind. Discogram indicated three diseased levels with L5-S1 being the most likely pain generator. Post minimally invasive PLIF with internal fixation (titanium) on 12-28-09 of L5-S1. Doing better than expected. Last opioid 7/9/10. Five months pain free, then my neck turned against me. MRI on 12/1/10-- disease at C2 to C7. Only surgical alternative is to fuse entire C-spine. Diagnosed now with Aggressive Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis with cord & brainstem active lesions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack-of-all-trades View Post
    I had forgotten about this post. It reminds me of a product called DMSO which is used as a solvent for machinery parts. Back in the late 80's, before a former Vice President reported to have invented the internet, the primary source for this product was flee markets. Many of the elderly were buying it like hotcakes. They said it really helped with any type of arthritic pain.

    The problem was the purity and delivery system. It is readily absorbed through the skin and also drags any other stuff/contaminates on your skin with it. I was and have been afraid of putting anything in my body that desolves grease sludge.

    Wiki is not a great sourch for medical info but considering the product gives a good description. Dimethyl sulfoxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I am speechless ... I had DMSO treatment several times to treat Interstitial Cystitis. I had no ideal what it contained and now I am kicking myself for not researching it before I let them use it ... YUCK !!!!



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    L3/L4 M6-L ADR; severe bilateral facet joint arthropathy - sclerotic; moderate foraminal stenosis (r)
    L4/L5 M6-L ADR; severe bilateral facet joint arthropathy - sclerotic; posterior decompression
    L5/S1 bilateral hemisacralized

    Procedures or Diagnostics
    3/09 L3/L4 - L4/L5 Laminectomy; L4/L5 w Disectomy
    7/09 Facet Joint Inj, Radiofrequency Thermocoagulation: 4Left
    4/10 Discogram

    6/10 L3/L4 - L4/L5 M6-L ADR
    8/11 L5 Epidural Steriod Inj: 1Left
    10/11 CT Myleogram

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