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    Default Kind regards to everyone... (discectomy)

    Regards to all members, some of you maybe read my story in other forums, some of you not, so lets go on...

    I am 47 years old women, with back problems in last 10 years. "Standard" sciatica problems during whole lifetime. I went to physiatrists, orthopeadics, chiro's, neurosurgeons...

    During all this years (10), I received tons of injections, which all helped, and I was always able to work, sleep, sit down, walk for few km's (miles).

    But with time, my conditions was getting worse and worse. I started to have constant leg and middle-right back pain.

    My doctor sent me to a MRI and told me I must see a neurosurgeon. Immediately I found best neurosurgeon in my country and went to see him. After looking at my images, after just 2 minutes he scheduled me to a surgery. That was around 18 months ago. I was operated on levels L3/4 (disc extrusion).

    I was so happy, I was hopping this is the end. I will continue with my life... BUT... It all started wrong during rehab. I was not able to exercise, go to pool, sit, stand, anything. I was just lying in bed and getting injections for 3 weeks.

    Also, important thing to notice is that I had raised body temperature from day of my first surgery. I have around 37.5 celsius, and normal is bellow 36.9.

    I scheduled appointment with my neurosurgeon, he looked into new MRI and he told "You can go back home, all is all right"... He didn't even listened to me when I told I cannot walk or sit down. He just told "You need to wait a little longer".

    After that I seen him aproximately 5-7 times, every time he just said "I am sorry".

    Aproximately 15 months after that first surgery, I decided to change hospital and neurosurgeon. That was very hard decision, because everyone told he is THE BEST.

    My son found me one of the best neurosurgeons in this part of Europe, scheduled me an appointment... This one is really good, skilled and perspective. Educated at AlphKlinik Germany, Cleveland Spine Center, and some other respectful spine centres.

    After seeing me for 2 minutes he started laughing. His words are:
    "You should never underwent a surgery".
    I told him: "Doctor, they tell me all is right, but I cannot live with this pains".
    He told: "How can they say its all right, when it isn't"

    Immediatly he scheduled me for a endoscopic discectomy L4 left and told me "This can help you only 10%, your spine problem is much more complexe".

    Indeed, after surgery I feeld 10% better, leg pain is gone, but knife is still in my low back .

    Few days after surgery he made a new MRI, which shown:
    HIZ, High-Intensity zone in L4/5.
    This reffers to annular or radial tear.

    I studied this condition very well, I ordered articles from Briting Journal of Radiology (Bogduk And Aprill's article) and I found out HIZ is predictive sign for Grade 4 or even Grade 5 annular tear.

    I am just not sure is it possible that HIZ causes such a terrible pains.

    1st surgery November 2007: Extrusio disci i.v. LIII-IV 1.dex.
    Surgery: Interlaminectomy LIII-IV dex., Ablatio disci i.v., Foraminotomy radicis L4 dex.

    2nd surgery Februarry 2009
    Surgery type: Endoscopic discectomy and decompression L4 root right


    3rd surgery (in September 2009) - waiting !!!!
    Surgery type: PLDD for treating my discogenic back pain. According to study on 40 patients, success rate is 88%.

    My current condition: constant middle back pain. Not able to walk, sit or lay in bed for more than 15 minutes.
    Life almost destroyed, looking forward to seeing my neurosurgeon in 2 weeks time.

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    What is PLDD? I haven't heard of it and am just curious.

    to the forum! I had a grade 5 tear in my L4/5, DDD and moderate arthritis in my facets prior to my ADR.
    31 years old- 1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 6 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011 , completely pain free still!

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    PLDD is stands for Percutaneous Laser Disc-Decompression.

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    Keano,

    Welcome to the Forum! I'm sorry that your spine problems bring you here, but we are here to support you. Please let us know how things go with your neurosurgeon appointment in two weeks.

    I wish you the very best. :thumpup:

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    • 1994: Football Injury, Severe Hyperextension
    • 1997: Snow Skiing Injury
    • 3/7/1997: Laminotomy L4/L5
    • 1999 & 2003: Motor Vehicle Accidents (not at fault both times) --> Grade V Annular Tears L4/L5 & L5/L6
    • 11/15/2003: 2-Level ProDisc® L4/L5 & L5/L6*, *lumbosacral transitional vertebra --> Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
    • 4/2008: 4.5 years pain-free before "new" leg pain
    • 5/14/2009: Dynamic Stabilization System L4/L5, Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
    I'm here to help.
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    justin (at) spinepatientsociety.org


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    Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.

    Yes, PLDD is safe and effective procedure for MANY cases. Let me know if you need any info about it.

    I have a full article " Twenty-three years of percutaneous laser disc decompression (PLDD) – State of the art and future prospects", so if anyone needs just beep me.

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    Default welcome !

    Hi Keano,

    greeting from Japan
    Trauma at 20 y/o left buttock, thigh, LBP eversince.
    confirmed DDD retro spondylolisthesis L5/S1, offered fusion,
    had discectomy successful.
    ProDisc-L L5/S1 at Pro Spine Successful

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenG View Post
    Hi Keano,

    greeting from Japan

    Hey Ken, how are you? Haven't seen you around lately, had been wondering about you. Hope all is well.
    31 years old- 1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 6 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011 , completely pain free still!

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    Hi KBear,
    thanks ! I am trying to get ready for surgery, financially also

    for me, it takes time to read and understand other topics, so sometimes
    I leave. It may make me think too much sometimes.
    anyway, arigatou ありがとう
    Trauma at 20 y/o left buttock, thigh, LBP eversince.
    confirmed DDD retro spondylolisthesis L5/S1, offered fusion,
    had discectomy successful.
    ProDisc-L L5/S1 at Pro Spine Successful

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenG View Post
    Hi KBear,
    thanks ! I am trying to get ready for surgery, financially also

    for me, it takes time to read and understand other topics, so sometimes
    I leave. It may make me think too much sometimes.
    anyway, arigatou ありがとう
    I understand. I wish there was some way that the forum had where you could read the posts in your native language.
    31 years old- 1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 6 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011 , completely pain free still!

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    Welcome to the board! Also, I wish you much luck with your procedure in September.

    -Dave
    Discectomy/Laminotomy, 1999
    L4-S1 DDD, 10/06
    Stalif Fusion L5-S1, 3/07
    Intrepid Fusion L4-L5, 7/08
    Increasing pain since solid fusing, 1/09
    Bilateral Transforaminal Injections 3/09
    Facet Joint Injections (L3-S1) 4/09
    RF Ablation (Medial Branch) 5/09
    CT Scan, MRI w/ contrast (no new info) 5/09
    Latest:
    - I wake up with no pain
    - Stand/sit for 15 mins., pinching pain begins
    - Pain at center, core L4-L5
    - Lying down, pulsing/throbbing pain for 2-3 hours
    - Taking 6-8 Norcos/day
    SCS Implant 8/31/09

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