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    Ok, I have asked on here before lol but feel like this is what caused my ddd. I have had frequent urination issues for 4 years now ever since a uti. I have been to several urologists none have helped, finaly got something about my adh level being litle low by an endcrinologist and put on demporessin, but i dont think its helping that much idk. No doctors say that frequent urination can cause this ddd. I think it is bc i have no deformities or family history of back things. I have l4/l5 bad and l5/s1 and l3/l4 is on the way. I did not play football for goodness sakes so idk why i would have this like i said no famiy history or any deformities in my spine. Does anybody have any ideas I could ask a dr without sounding like an idiot? Is there a test to see where your water goes when you drink it? The DDD may have been caused years ago by 4 wheeling and then playing basketball went up and collided with a guy and was in killer back pain. The frequent urination started 4 months or so before then so not sure what it is. I may end up going to john hopkins for urology follow up and then if they say no idk what else to do and maybe it was just the fall from basketball. The chiro said he thinks that would be it and not the frequent urination from the uti i had. I even have thought crazy stuff like ankylosing but looking at my mri I dont think i have any thing like that as nothing seems to be attacking my bones and I will wait till ig et a job to get tested by rhematologist. Any ideas on what to ask or see what would cause frequent urination to lead to this? as all tests show im hydrated, but I have read something about bgeing hydrated on a cellular level they cant test for. Please help if you have some good questions to ask or ideas as I really think its tied all to my urination issues but maybe im dead wrong idk, thanks.
    Riding 4 wheeler and playing basketball. Collide with guy in mid air and I hit concrete on one leg and then fall down. Wake up in pain cant move for few hours, fine few days later. Back never the same.

    dec 2007 horseplaying with father, contained l5-s1 disc herniation with sciata on right leg, traction helps and time, pain free, diagnosed ddd l4/l5 and l5/s1

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    Default Re: Frequent Urination Causing DDD

    Hey SN,

    Frequent urination in of itself would not cause degenerative disc disease. However, frequent urination could be a symptom of a herniation.

    If your physicians have noted that your antidiuretic hormone (ADH) levels are low, this would most definitely cause increased urine production. ADH normally works in the kidney to reabsorb water. When a patient is not producing ADH (called central diabetes insipidus) or when a patient's kidney is not responsive to ADH (called peripheral diabetes insipidus), there is increased urine output. Note: diabetes insipidus is not related to diabetes--the name is really a misnomer.

    Herniations can cause symptoms such as increased urination, but it is more likely that excessive urine output is due to diabetes insipidus.

    I hope this helps.

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    Hey Justin thanks man but i got the info on the adh stuff. I know its probbably not the urination lol im just obsessed with that , realistically it was probbably the 4 wheeling and the basketball that day in which i had no pain first 2 games, then collide in mid air and fall down kind of and in killer back pain after. I am just in denial of the fact i spent 600 bucks to go see a friend in az to ruin my back for life lol. I just wish I had seen a chiro right after that and he /she may have saved my discs lol as the chiro recently said my back was favoring left and did some adjustments which actually have helped some.
    Riding 4 wheeler and playing basketball. Collide with guy in mid air and I hit concrete on one leg and then fall down. Wake up in pain cant move for few hours, fine few days later. Back never the same.

    dec 2007 horseplaying with father, contained l5-s1 disc herniation with sciata on right leg, traction helps and time, pain free, diagnosed ddd l4/l5 and l5/s1

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    I think all of us look for a reason when facing a lifetime of DDD. I went through considering my previous activities, genetics, accidents and had to conclude in the end that it was just one of those things. I then was able to get on with dealing with the consequences. I understand that its a really difficult process to go through.
    Alison 46 year old female
    2011 Aug PLIF L4/L5 - L5/S1 both adr in situ
    2010 May - Discogram on L2/L3 & L3/L4, neither pain generators
    2009 May - Failed revision fusion on L5/S1 with Charite ADR in situ
    2008 Caudal epidural exacerbated nerve symptoms. Prolapse L2/L3
    2007 L5/S1 Facet deterioration
    Brilliant 5 years, no pain only minor motor problems and residual nerve damage
    2002 March - ADR Charite - L4/5, L5/S1
    2000 Disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1

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    Default Re: Frequent Urination Causing DDD

    As noted above, frequent urination could be caused by spine dz or something else. Probably something else, especially if you are getting on in years. No way of really telling without a medical workup.

    Females usually have more problems going to much whereas males usually have more problems not going. Males have two sphincters controlled by the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. Males need both to be open to pee and one open and one closed to deliver sperm. Bothmales and females have a bladder that must squeeze a little. Us males also have a prostate and a much longer urethra than females. Both can cause slow flow if diseased.

    Probably more than you wanted to know, just that the delivery of pee to the outside world is quite complicated. The human machine is just a marvelous creation.
    Low back pain became somewhat dehabilitating in 2005
    Have had 11 steroid injections, IDET, Trial for nerve stimulator, PT, chiropractic trial, practically every med known to mankind. Discogram indicated three diseased levels with L5-S1 being the most likely pain generator. Post minimally invasive PLIF with internal fixation (titanium) on 12-28-09 of L5-S1. Doing better than expected. Last opioid 7/9/10. Five months pain free, then my neck turned against me. MRI on 12/1/10-- disease at C2 to C7. Only surgical alternative is to fuse entire C-spine. Diagnosed now with Aggressive Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis with cord & brainstem active lesions

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