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Reply With QuoteSorry I can't think of much. Is there any physio you can do on them, maybe do some work on them when you do your hydro?
This is a discussion on Ankle problems related to spine problems? within the Spine-Related Conditions & Conservative Spine Treatment forums, part of the General Spine Discussion Forums category; I have now been diagnosed with problems in both ankles and am going for steroid injections in the next week ...
Ankle problems related to spine problems? I have now been diagnosed with problems in both ankles and am going for steroid injections in the next week or so to see if these can help settle them.
fasciitis
I have been seen a podiatrist for a while as I have plantar fasciitis (pain in heels) that flares up when I haven't been doing much because of my pain and then get back on my feet afterwards. This has responded well to the orthotics. However my ankles are weak because of the neurological problems in my legs (especially my left one). I went over on both of them back in the summer and have been struggling to stay walking. The ultrasound showed fluid around the ligament that goes over the top of the ankle (anterior talofibular), both the ligaments are thickened. The left ankle joint has problems as well.
They are taking an age to settle down from the pressure of the ultrasound (done new years eve) and I'm hoping to be able to wear shoes today. I'm getting some new altered orthotics to see if they will help a bit.
Any ideas of anything else I can do to help?
Alison 46 year old female
2012 Doing Rehab
2011 Sept 3rd Op Removal of old instrumentation and PLIF L4/L5 - L5/S1 both adr in situ
2010 May Discogram on L2/L3 & L3/L4
2009 May 2nd Op Failed revision fusion on L5/S1 with Charite ADR in situ
2008 Caudal epidural exacerbated nerve symptoms. Prolapse L2/L3
2007 L5/S1 Facet deterioration
2002 March 1st Op ADR Charite - L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? Sorry I can't think of much. Is there any physio you can do on them, maybe do some work on them when you do your hydro?
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? i'm not seeing physio any more, you only get a real short time with them on the nhs. I have been going to the pool in flip flops so could do sime hydro but the podiatrist says nerves are over the top of the ankle are really aggravated/sensitive and hasn't had a patient like me before so isn't sure what to suggest. he is a specialist orthopaedic podiatrist and has been very knowledgeable during my treatment.
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? Just a thought, but if you are walking differently because of ankle problems, I would definitely think that could cause spine pain. Kinda like how us pregnant women tend to over arch backward to compensate for our huge belly, which then causes us back pain.
31 years old- 1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 6 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011, completely pain free still!
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? Alison, when did your ankle issue start? I'm not sure I was aware of this problem...maybe this is the first you've mentioned it? Anyway, gosh, one thing on top of another. I'm sorry. I don't really have any advice, but I hope the new orthotics help. On another note: have you heard anything yet about a time-frame for your upcoming surgery? How much notice, typically, does the nhs give you on something like this? Thinking boutcha! Cindylou
• January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
• June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
• April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
• April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
• July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
• July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
• August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
• March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
• April 27, 2010 2nd right hip arthroscopy to remove adhesions and release psoas muscle
• September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
• December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
• December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
• February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
July 18, 2011
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? I stepped badly and fell in it awkwardly in august, this led to me favouring the other ankle and I then twisted this one a few days later. i've been waiting for it to settle down and heal (it can take longer than a broken bone apparently). it however has been getting worse, more tender and painful.
all my chronic pain is buttock, leg and feet, I only very occasionally get acute back pain. I am walking oddly but that is mainly due to lack of movement in the ankle (I think). not sure what movement to try with them to ease things.
I checked on the progress of the waiting list and it's looking like march is the soonest i'l be given but it's far more likely to be April.
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? Hi Alison,
I'm not sure what will specifically help in your situation. However, I do have a question: do you happen to have a short leg? If so, this can be corrected with lifts (and, I believe, you mentioned that you are being fitting for orthotics).
Ankle / leg problems can most definitely affect one's spines and vice versa. The body is inherently connected; thus, when one's gait is affected, other parts of the body (ie the spine) compensate.
I hope your ankle starts to feel better.
Justin Averna
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- 1994: Football Injury, Severe Hyperextension
- 1997: Snow Skiing Injury
- 3/7/1997: Laminotomy L4/L5
- 1999 & 2003: Motor Vehicle Accidents (not at fault both times) --> Grade V Annular Tears L4/L5 & L5/L6
- 11/15/2003: 2-Level ProDisc® L4/L5 & L5/L6*, *lumbosacral transitional vertebra --> Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
- 4/2008: 4.5 years pain-free before "new" leg pain
- 5/14/2009: Dynamic Stabilization System L4/L5, Dr. Rudolf Bertagnoli
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Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? I have been checked and they are the same. i was mainly wondering if anyone else with spine issues had problems with their ankles and if anything had helped. I haven't responded well to steroid injections before but that was in my spine so here's hoping this works better.
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? Fingers crossed then.
Re: Ankle problems related to spine problems? IT doesnt really sound like it is related to a spinal problem I see it often in my office and sound to be related to mechanical problems most of the time. try deep tissue laser treatment. A low level laser will not do much good. if you can get treated with one of the newer 10 watt lasers which really do work, you will get better. dont give up to soon on it. of course there could be another problem, so i could be wrong. doc
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