WOOO HOOOOO.....
CONGRATULATIONS Kathy.
It is great that you are off narcotics.
The memory thing is a big deal. Now the fog will lift.
Keep going but remember to pace yourself.
Runagain![]()
This is a discussion on L4/L5, Active L, 3/17/09, Dr. Rolando Garcia within the Surgical Outcomes forums, part of the Spine Surgery Forums category; Thank you Justin. It does feel great to be off the narcotics, the fuzz is slowly lifting. I knew it ...
Thank you Justin. It does feel great to be off the narcotics, the fuzz is slowly lifting. I knew it was making me fuzzy; but did not realize how bad it was, until now, when I have normal back. I don't forget things so easily. Seriously, before I could get up to go get the kids a drink, make it the 10 feet to the kitchen, and forget what I was there for! It was crazy how impaired all of it was making me. I guess because it was a slow transition, over 4 years, to be on all of those drugs, it didn't seem that bad.
31 years old-
1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!
Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 5.5 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011, completely pain free still!
WOOO HOOOOO.....
CONGRATULATIONS Kathy.
It is great that you are off narcotics.
The memory thing is a big deal. Now the fog will lift.
Keep going but remember to pace yourself.
Runagain![]()
DDD or DJD
ADR recepient.
Mother of four, advocate and insurance fighter.
Kathy,
I am so pleased for you! I am somewhat behind you but following in your footsteps. Being able to think better is huge, I know I love it and I am sure it is better for you with little ones. When you feel better it is easier to move forward and take these steps off the meds. It has been great to follow your progress and it amazes me how the year goes by and most everyone feels better. Keep up the posting.
Phylly
Cervical fusion C4-6 March 2002
Fall on tailbone causing sciatica and back pain April 05
Conservative Treatment and PM for 2 years
Discogram concordant pain @L4-S1 Aug. 07
Prodisc ADR's at L4-S1 November 2007
Foraminotomy July 08 for Sciatica-failed
Back pain worsened
Prodiscs removed and discs fused at L4-S1 Feb. 09
I can't believe it; but it has been almost a year since my surgery (8 days is a year)! I had my 1 year post op visit today. Everything is great, dr said it looked great and that I am doing great in weaning from medication. I even got a $100 gift card from the study for 'showing up' for my visit..... sweet!
I have been getting off of the Cymbalta and it is a b!$ch! I feel like I have had the flu for weeks, my legs ache like crazy (which is not a symptom I ever had with my spine) and I just feel like crap. Turns out, I have been weaning too quickly, didn't realize that...oops. I had to go back up on the Cymbalta and take it slower and I am having to take a vicodin here and there for the extra pain. Apparently, this is VERY common with Cymbalta. I googled Cymbalta Withdrawal and found an entire forum dedicated to it. Tons of horror stories and about how hard it is to get off of. Sounds like people who are on it for just depression and not pain, get pain when getting off of it. Was glad to find that and know that this is normal. Looks like this may take a month or so to get off of, so I will have to be patient (which I am not.... just ask hubby).
Here is a picture of my disc from today. Oh and the metal below it is my belly button ring.
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31 years old-
1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!
Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 5.5 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011, completely pain free still!
I think I am getting over the hump of the cymbalta withdrawal. I still feel achy; but it is much more manageable. I didn't take any vicodin yesterday, just 2 doses of excedrin back and body. I didn't even take anything for several hours this morning after waking.... which is amazing for me. I'm so ready to be done with the withdrawals, it sucks. I'm on 30mg of Cymbalta, down from 120mg; which I definitely did too quickly. Gonna sit at this dose for a few weeks, until my body is totally adjusted, then wean again.
31 years old-
1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!
Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 5.5 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011, completely pain free still!
Gosh, I'm not remembering what amount of Cymbalta I was on Kathy, must have been lower than yours clearly, because I weaned myself off of Cymbalta about a month or 6 weeks ago with less effort than you are experiencing. Good luck with that. Of course, that said....I am back on my trusty Prozac, because my hubby said my mood swings were terrible.I talked with my new internist about it this week, and she had some great advice for me: She said for those of us that live up in this tundra like weather, winter is NOT the time to try and get off of any anti-depressant. She recommended I give it a go again in the middle of the summer, when there is lots of sunshine around, and my stress levels are low. (like, not when I have a death in the family, am moving, have back and hip pain, and a broken hand! haha!)
Yeah, silly me! I'm glad you are getting your life back! And big congrats on the 1 year mark!!
• January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
• June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
• April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
• April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
• July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
• July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
• August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
• March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
• April 27, 2010 2nd right hip arthroscopy to remove adhesions and release psoas muscle
• September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
• December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
• December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
• February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
July 18, 2011
Hey everyone, been awhile since I've been on here. I successfully weaned off of the Cymbalta, then hit a bump in the road. I guess it was helping with aches and pains more than I realized, b/c I began hurting again. I then fell into a major depression, to the point that I couldn't even get dressed and was pretty miserable. I realized a couple of weeks into it that I was depressed (doesn't seem like it would take that long to see what was going on; but denial is amazing). I started on Wellbutrin a week or so ago and can tell a big difference. I'm still not 100% in the mood department, but it's getting better. I see my pain dr. on Friday and am going to ask about a higher dose. I really don't want to go back on the Cymbalta, especially knowing the withdrawals. I'm still in more pain than a month ago, but think once my depression is under control, that it will improve. I have quit Lyrica as well and now just take 2-3 Vicodin a day and muscle relaxers for sleep (which I will quit once my depression is gone... I get where I can't sleep when I am depressed, though a nice side effect was I dropped 10 lbs b/c I also lost my appetite).
31 years old-
1/06- In wreck with 18 wheeler at 25 years old; 6/06- Head on collision on Interstate, both wrecks other drivers fault. Numerous MRI's, PT, chiropractic, acupuncture, TENS therapy, massage therapy, facet injections, epidural injections, Nerve study, Discogram, confirms pain in L4/5, IDET, decompression, Bi-lateral neurotomy L3/4/5, denied by insurance twice, in Active L clinical trial, had surgery March 17, 2009 in Miami, FL- received Active L disc at 29 years old. Pain and medication free as of October 2010!
Mommy to Emma- 8 years, Ava- 5.5 years & had baby Eli after ADR, via c-section on March 25, 2011, completely pain free still!
Hi KBear
You are strong and have been through plenty. Get on living life you have two beautiful girls a great hubby that supported you all the way , You have a new disc and things will get better, you are young and determined, you have given great support to those who needed it, "Life is not a dress rehearsal"
We love you and support you.
Be positive and positive things will happen
LOL Gil![]()
L5-S1 lam 1994
L2 to L5 DDD
L3 -L4 hern Dec 2007.
L4-L5 Annular fissure with mild central stenosis and moderate facet hypertrophy.
L5-S1 bilaterial neural foraminal narrowing with inferior effacement.
L2-L3 Right-sided neural foraminal narrowing
L3-L4 related to posterolateral hypertrophic spurs and facet hypertrophy.
C3-C4 limited DDD
15 injections Depo. P.T. 18 months 9 dose packs,
Nerve Block Injections.4 ESI S1
L5-S1 Foraminotomy 09
L4-L5 Microdiscectomy 09 ReHerniation 4-2010
Surgery 6-29-11 L4-L5-S1 Decompression Fusion L5-S1 and Coflex F implants
Hi Kathy,
Just to let you know you are not alone, and I have not even had my surgery yet. I want ot have it yesterday. i can't handle this any more either. I am on pretty high narcs and I am sure they are not going to give me any more. I have so much to do before surgery that I just want to curl up and die. I just wanted to tell you that there are others that feel like you do. I am so sorry you are not feeling better. I know you will soon. KNow that YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE.cARMEN
- Scoliosis and multilevel severe degeneration of the intervertebral disks
- Marked multilevel facet arthrosis
- Fusion of the L5 and S1 vertebrae
- Grade 1 spondylolisthesis at L4-L5 and L5 and S1
- Slight antherolisthesis at L3-4
- Multilevel asymmetrical neuroforaminal narrowing
Good morning K-Bear! And here I was assuming all was going well because you hadn't been on the boards in a good while.....just goes to show you: don't assume anything. I am truly sorry you hit this bump in the road. I am proud of you though, for getting on an anti-depressant (when you recognized the signs), and also hooking up with your pain management team. Not everyone would take the bull by the horns, but you did. :thumpup: Has anything come of your little tyke relative, his name is escaping me, and the custody battle? Has that all been finalized?
We are here for you honey and I hope each day brings more sunshine into your world. I'm sending lots of cyber hugs your way! (((((((((((((( )))))))))))))) Cindylou xoxo![]()
• January 2000 MVA passenger, used jaws of life to retrieve me, neck injury and months of PT
• June 2001 Bicycle accident, 2 compression fractures at T12/L1, Vertebroplasty Sept. 2001
• April 2006 right hip, labral tear and repair
• April 2007 3 level ProDisc @ L3/4, L4/5 & L5/6✷ ✷Lumbosacral transitional vertebra; Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
• July 2, 2008 ALIF & Laminectomy @ L6/S1
• July 30, 2008 re-opened 28 days later to remove bone cement that had leaked onto S1 nerve root
• August 2008 Pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia, collapsed left lung, re-hospitalized 1 week
• March 10, 2009 Right SI Joint Fusion
• April 27, 2010 2nd right hip arthroscopy to remove adhesions and release psoas muscle
• September 30, 2010 lumbar facet rhizotomy
• December 9, 2010 12 bilateral lumbar trigger point and steroid injections
• December 23, 2010 12 more bilateral trigger point injections w/o steroid
• February 15, 2011 ESI bilaterally in lower lumbar...relief only for few days. Considering 1 more.
Did Spinal Cord Stimulator trial from 5/11/11-5/17/11 with excellent results; Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery is Monday,
July 18, 2011
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